✨ Magical Mindset Podcast: The Joy of Being

Fun is a Feeling, Not an Activity: Transform Your Life and Human Differently

[00:00:00] Welcome to Magical Mindset: An Introduction

Intro: Welcome to Magical Mindset with Macarena Luz Bianchi, where we explore the magic of mindset, gratitude, and purposeful living. I'm your host Macarena, and I'm thrilled to have you join me on this journey of wonder, wellness, and wisdom. You can find the episode show notes, your free Magical Mindset Blueprint, and more at xpres.me/podcast, and here's the show.

Macarena: Hello, lighthearted listeners. 

[00:00:32] Meet Roberta Weber: The Human Differently Coach

Macarena: In today's episode, we're going to talk to Roberta Weber. She's the human differently coach. She's coming to us from Glasgow, Scotland. And she works online all over the world. So that's how we'll be talking and everybody welcome Roberta. Hey, Roberta, how are you?

Roberta: I'm really good, Mac. I am so happy to be here with you. It's very cool. And thank you very much.

Macarena: We've known each other a long time. We're very lucky in the sense that we've been working together since the pandemic, right? 

Roberta: The pandemic. Yeah. I don't think we quite knew what was there for us when it first started, when we first met. 

Macarena: So, Roberta and I met doing a mastery program for healing modality we both practiced. It was really cool and it started in January of 2020, and it was great.

We were part of a cohort with another wonderful woman, another healer and coach. And next thing you know, the pandemic happens. Surprise! And it changed gears. So, I thought it was supposed to be like a couple hours a month of this. and then it became 10 hours a week or more. We went into emergency mode, but in the process, we got to really know each other and help each other.

And it was like a really amazing thing. I think like the best thing I got out of it was of course, the community it created with you, Roberta, and of course, Brooke. So, please introduce yourself.

Roberta: Oh, thank you, Mac. I am Roberta Weber, and my latest iteration of my name, or my title really, is that I am a Human Differently Coach meaning that I help people human be in their lives really differently. I came to that because I'm not just health anymore. Before it was all about health, but it's also about how they show up in their lives, their relationships, and the sense of why are you even in a body and how that interplays with everything in your life.

So that's the angle that I come in at.

Macarena: Fantastic.

[00:02:36] The Power of Fun and Playfulness in Healing

Macarena: We were very inspired by a really cool TED talk. "Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life?" By Catherine Price and it's so cool.

Please listen to it. Of course, we'll have it in the show note captions. You can get it there. But just to overall the whole point and the reason we were so inspired by it is because not only do we need to have fun. We see this as a reoccurring theme with our clients or their coaching clients or private clients, and she simplified it to playfulness, connection and flow. 

That's what creates fun. These concepts apply to a lot of the work we do. So, what was it about this TED talk that touched your heart?

Roberta: First of all, cause you sent it to me. I will always watch what you send to me. And I think because fun is so healing like we both know it from the work that we've done, particularly in the body intuitive, it's really clear how much that brings to us. And so, emphasizing that is really important for our clients and for ourselves.

Having somebody break it down into the component parts just seemed really cool to me and I love it. Connection is something so cool, right? Getting in the zone is something we do in our work and then the playfulness, that's something certainly close to my heart. I'm a bit of a goofball myself.

 It felt like it was giving me a free reign to go ahead and be all of myself in a way. 

Macarena: Quite fascinating. This reminds me. Many years ago, I took a lot of training courses. I wanted to face my fears and I wanted to expand. And I took all this crazy stuff like enlightened warrior camp, all this stuff to face my fears and it was really amazing.

I've done a lot of the work and in that process, I remember, one of the exercises at one point was ask the people close to you how they see you. And it blew me away because the time, yes, I was a film producer and I had a lot of workaholic tendencies, which is why prioritizing fun is so important for me.

And what everybody said was. Reliable, trustworthy, reliable, you get things done. And I'm like, great, but that's it. I always saw myself as super into lighthearted empowerment, as you all know. And I have a very silly side, a very goofy, silly side, but then was coming across as just the producer, I was "Oh man"

I have to actively change that. I think it was my late twenties or early thirties, where I was like, I have to pay attention to that because I'm coming off so robotic. And I think the reason, I know you've probably seen this with your clients, it's this feminine masculine power.

The things that made me A really good producer and I'm really good at what I do is the ability to be structured and creative. Some people make all that, more feminine qualities, more masculine qualities. And when you're a producer, it's extremely creative, but there's so much money on the line, like time it's hardcore.

So that story is your baby and you've got to make it happen. And no matter what. So, there is a feminine aspect of it, however, the work, especially if you're a workaholic and you can work 24/7, or you think you can. You just work. So, I found that I had a really hard time turning that off.

When I got home, I was in like go. When I would travel to New York and I was like, oh, this is much my pace. I'd come back to Miami. Everybody's slow down. You're walking so fast. You're moving so fast. So, I had to learn how to turn that off.

And I see that the feminine qualities. Which of course are in me are very much related to fun and I had to learn how to be powerful without mimicking what a man would do or what a predominantly masculine person would do. You know what I mean? 

[00:06:24] Exploring Femininity, Fun, and Work-Life Balance

Macarena: So how do you see femininity as it relates to fun and the permission to be both of those? 

Roberta: Wow. It's not an angle that I've thought about it actually, Mac. So let me try and take a moment to dig deep. So, the femininity and the fun, to be honest, in lots of ways, I think a little bit like what you're talking about. I see a lot more men having fun than women do. And I think it is because of what you're saying.

Women are having to work so hard just to be in a room. that once they do that, they're having to take themselves so seriously. And it's really bad for our health. It's bad for our menstrual cycles, for going into menopause. So many women I see coming into menopause and they have adrenal burnout and it's terrible.

Like it makes really bad hormonal balance, all of those things. Whereas I think men. It's a lot more freeing for them because it's almost like no matter what they do in some circumstances, they can get away with it. It's going to be okay. And women can't ever make any little bit of mistake.

So that's what I see. 

Macarena: That's interesting. I love to hear your take on it. It's interesting because I see men almost suffer silently. So much stress, so much pressure to provide. So, it's interesting. Maybe I attract workaholics, so I don't see the men in my life as much fun as they should so that's fascinating.

 We all can relate to this. It's not about whether you're a man or a woman. What I'm talking about is, as a human, we're both feminine and masculine

and the feminine powers are sometimes more subtle, like we might ask more questions instead of sometimes the masculine ones are more direct.

So, in my situation, making a movie. You have to be super direct most of the time, but you also have to be quite subtle. So, in the job, I definitely used both a lot. But when I got home because of the schedule budgeting, it was very like direction.

Now it was so hard to unplug from that and just be the woman and be like the fem, tap into the goddess energy. Because of the momentum, I was like, okay, what needs to get done? Done. And then that's how I discovered that I was a workaholic because at that time, everybody's Oh, you're a workaholic.

Everybody's that's great. And then, I'm sure maybe you've seen this in your practice that when people are addicted to anything, whether it's work or substance or anything. We can't face something within us.

So, this is not the workaholic episode, but it is really related to fun. But for me, the bottom line had to do with feelings of abandonment. That's what I was hiding. And because I felt emotionally abandoned, physically abandoned, and actually spiritually abandoned, those were my atheist, years.

All of that, I wasn't being myself, is the bottom line. I was some reason, people at home could see I could be silly at home, but I couldn't really be silly out in the world and it's because I was like, and I think it's what you were referring to. I have to be serious or I may not be taken seriously or something like that. 

Roberta: Be led in the room, even. Yeah.

Macarena: luckily for me, that was never an issue. I just maneuvered and whatever. That was never an issue of do I belong here. I never even have those thoughts. Thank God, I have the privilege or the ignorance. It doesn't matter whether you think I belong or not, this is what I'm doing, so, Prescription was really important to me. And it took a lot.

So, it sounds like you've had a good amount of fun, but I know that as a woman and as a mother, I mean your career, Sometimes, it's hard to prioritize time. 

Roberta: Absolutely. Completely. For prioritizing to actually have fun was very difficult. Particularly I found it, my kids are now 16, almost 17, and almost 21. Of, all the things being, opening up to a space where I could just be playful with them and connected and in flow. It was very hard to make all three of those things come together. I could try and force myself to certain extents, but if you're running a business and you are trying to keep them fed with good, healthy food and, get them to their after-school things, none of that stuff really lends itself to connectedness, flow, or playfulness.

It really doesn't. but I think, just circling back to what you were talking about with that idea of being yourself and actually the fact that you were abandoned, not only by others, but really as much as anything by yourself, abandoning your own spiritual connections, et cetera. And I think to me, that's where I tend to go with most of my clients.

And it's. it's really easy to make it sound super serious, right? But actually, when we get these things aligned and in place, then the play, the fun can actually happen from there. In Chinese medicine, we have this saying of if somebody is accepting of their curriculum, what they came into this world to do and to be, and it fits their, Jing, which is their form, it fits that, and it fits their dreams, and their spirit, their Shen.

So, when all of that comes together, we're able to just be at ease. And once we're at ease with ourselves, then being playful, being connected and being in flow, they all happen. So, to me, it's like going a little bit backwards into something that feels really serious and probably doesn't sound very fun at all.

But actually, once you get that, it's like a rocket. People can just take off in the land of fun, really.

Macarena: So cool. Yeah. You brought up this idea of seriousness and that's something that I had to learn that even though things are important. Most things are not serious. So, if we're like putting that lens to things, what's up with that? 

Roberta: But I think for you, when I think about you and your amazing work what is it that you call it? 

Macarena: The playground of experience. Yes. 

[00:12:43] The Theme Park of Life: A Playful Approach to Personal Growth

Macarena: A lot of these concepts that I talk about came up because I keep seeing like the same patterns with my clients and myself, of course, it helps to understand. So, I noticed that most of us look at life way too seriously. But if you take a step back and think of life as a theme park of experience,

or a playground of experience, I use theme park because then there's a lot more to play with there. And if we're here to just experience it, so it's not about good or bad. It's not about that duality. I think most people are breaking out of that perception of duality. That it has to be one or the other.

So, it's a playground of experience. You're not here to learn lessons. You're here to expand in your theme park and playground of experience. So, it helps to look at life. If we take the theme park analogy. You've got different lands, so most people come in with some wounds, so for example, I hear a lot self-esteem, I do a lot of work with self-esteem, and then maybe they come in with a pattern of forgiveness, right?

So, in the theme park, they might have their, career land, they have their family land, they have their, passion projects, expression, creativity lands. And then, if the person came in here with a pattern of learning about forgiveness we talk about how much real estate of your theme park, are you giving to this?

So, if you come in with this pattern, this very challenging pattern of forgiveness, what does that mean? You're going to do things that require forgiveness and you will experience a lot of things that require forgiveness. So, if you see that pattern happening, because we all have these patterns of opportunities of expansion.

Then it's like, how much real estate are you giving to this? Yes, it was in the past. And I think a lot of it is, okay, so what part of the theme park needs to be renovated, so we can look at in a playful way., the client's life so that it's not so intense, because of course, you work with a lot of people with some intense trauma.

I'm more on the light hearted, lighthearted empowerment. We talk about self-esteem, we can do little bit of health stuff, but I'm more of the confidence booster, the fairy godmother. I'm not a therapist on purpose. So that's where I am in people's journey. I help them clear blocks and, help them look at life in a more empowered way. I give them the tools so that they can really manage their life in a much more carefree and lighthearted way.  

Roberta: Yeah, but if we were to bring her version of the world into your theme park, where fun is a part of it. It is interesting, the idea of having the playfulness in a slightly different way, that might be your creativity, the connection, which might be just everyday things might be, being connected to people at work the flow. You and I use flow all the time.

Getting into an aspect of the zone, we call it, right? And that's another piece. But then at the Venn diagram overlap of all of it in the center, that's where things really zing according to her work. And it's how, from the theme park, how can we make that?

I want to know how to make that part of my theme park bigger. And I want to know how to do that with my clients as well. And some of it is just have you done any work towards that? Or not even work per se, have you put any emphasis on it? Are you prioritizing it? Which is one of the things that she talks about, is actually make it a priority.

Every single day, just to, to have fun. 

Macarena: So, you also know like the lighthearted living formula is wonder, wellness, wisdom. So, the theme park, people who want to be more general and don't want to like adventure land or whatever we use, like we're wonder, wellness, and wisdom. A lot of things overlap, especially like the concepts of gratitude that I talk a lot about because they're all wonder, wellness, and wisdom, which is fantastic.

And most things are. But I find that it helps to compartmentalize. To play with these tools to say, okay, I'm going to put wonder under the creativity, playfulness aspect. And then my home under wellness, let's say my home life is wellness and career, vocation can be wisdom, mind, that mind area.

So, we can use those things. But then what she says the playfulness connectivity and flow. So that's the real estate, like what I just said, the wonder one is wisdom or home career. And, social life, let's say or personal life or creative life or fun. And then the playfulness would be could be rides in each of those, so the territories, your home life is a territory. So, in your home life, you should have activities, events, rides, that are for playfulness within that theme. Connection and flow, right? So, if we're talking about home, specifically. my husband and I like walking. We go for walks with our dogs, that's connection and that's flow.

So that hits two of those, and I try to insert some playfulness and I think the dogs bring that in into that for example. So that's something that, if I'm feeling out of sorts and I need to be at ease, take a walk, take a walk because it's going to cover all of those things.

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Macarena: In your family life? What are some of the activities or how do these things play into it? 

Roberta: So that's really cool. 

[00:18:21] Family, Fun, and the Feeling of Joy

Roberta: And actually, there's something that we did even just last night. It makes it sounds really salacious, doesn't it? It's not what I'm talking about people out of the gutter. For Christmas, cause it's not long past Christmas. We got an old school Wii. 

It's moved on massively. It's really old school, but that's what our kids played the most when they were young. And we had so much fun when they were young, just watching them and seeing them, do better and everything. And we would play occasionally. I'm terrible at most of these things, but there's something about cause you can use the controller and you don't have to push quite as many buttons and things like that.

And so, my husband and I were playing it last night and it was Lego Star Wars. And I know fun isn't an activity. Like it's not that it is like the three things, but the connectivity that we had, the playfulness that we had and the flow, because we were, they're experiencing all of this together.

Those three things. We just had a ball last night. It was so fun. And we did over Christmas with the kids. The kids were so delighted by it. So yeah, that's one of the things that we do for sure.

Macarena: One of the concepts that Katherine Price discusses is the idea that Fun is a feeling and not an activity. And for me, that was like, Oh, wow. Yeah. Oops. It's so true. Fun is a feeling. But I, and you know this about me, I run fun, in the enneagram, I'm a seven, I'm an enthusiast.

So, I can have fun everywhere. I skewed too much maybe on the positive side. I can enjoy anything is what my point is. I'm very curious. I will find everything interesting. And, sometimes the people around me are not like that most of the time.

So, then it's Oh, they're not feeling it. For me to feel it, I feel very lucky, in that sense. 

[00:20:09] Exploring Personal Archetypes and Astrology

Macarena: but the people around are not, 

So, I skew fun. What's your experience?

Roberta: I see myself as quite a mix. I don't know about lots of archetypes. I don't know lots about things like astrology, for instance, except I am a Scorpio and I know that's meant to be like very intense. And I don't know how many people would say Scorpios are actually really fun.

Macarena: We are so much fun. we're the fun. 

Roberta: they just don't know.

Macarena: If we're secure and we've done some internal work, you're good to go. If we have not run for your life.

Roberta: That like sums up what people probably experienced of me in my early 20s, maybe even late 20s. 

[00:20:48] Diving into Five Element Acupuncture and Personal Energy

Roberta: But so, what I do know are the five elements, right? And the five elements are, it's a wheel of life from a Chinese medicine perspective. And what I went into healing work with was five element acupuncture and you discover what Energetic somebody is and with that I am the wood energetic and this is the energy of springtime It's coming from the darkness and going into the light and it's very intense, maybe a bit like Scorpio, because it's just okay, somebody's given me a seed and I've got to take care of it and I'd like, I have to grow it and I have to use the plan and I have to go.

But it's also within that, it's got a really vivacious energy. A lot of wood people, if you meet them, they look younger than their years, which I certainly do. And, there's a real, yeah, I'll take it. Thanks. There's a real sense of almost like an elfish playfulness, a little bit on a naughty side.

As well. Yeah. So, I find that if I can insert something a bit goofy, I will. Absolutely. 

[00:21:46] Cultural Differences and Embracing Enthusiasm

Roberta: And what I find a bit sad, actually, being a Californian, being an American here in Britain, is it's not always met with. they just don't really understand me. And even just enthusiasm, like you were talking about, like being a seven in the Enneagrams. I remember when I was doing my PhD and one of the professors I was in, I was stuck in the tiniest elevator you've ever seen in your life with him.

And he said something about, I don't know, just in a really doer way. And I repeat, I, said back, I was just yeah no it's good. It's awesome. As a Californian might do. And he just let rip into me. He was just like, really? Really? It's something that causes you to feel awe?

Really? Are you sure about that? It was just this sense of just wanting to rip strips off of me, so 

I'll say something being goofy. And then I'll be like, okay, never mind. You're not one of those. You're not my kind. 

Macarena: Basically, when I come across people like that, it's oh, you want to be gloomy? Okay,

Roberta: Yeah.

Macarena: have fun. Have fun with that.

Roberta: Yeah.

Macarena: Of course, if they're a client, how's that working out for you? 

Roberta: Yeah, but that's tough because, it's interesting, it's like a whole cultural thing.

Macarena: And I think as a workaholic that's part of the issue of feeling bad or that fun has to be justified, which is crazy.

And that's one of the things that connected was, of course, like workaholics, we understand each other, but I definitely bring in the silliness because someone has to. Sometimes things are intense, and, maybe not too serious, but definitely they get intense.

And sometimes they are serious. Like we've all gone through our share of trauma. It's life, right? It's being human. But a lot of the things we talk about, especially like with mindset is. Yes, sometimes things are intense, but how we approach them is whether we suffer. So, I love that Buddha saying, I don't know if he actually said it, but he gets credited. "Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional." So, all this mindset stuff. Yes, sometimes when a crisis happens, you have to deal with it, but dealing with it does not equate suffering, right? We don't have to suffer and I have to remind myself I can be at ease. One of the things I focus on is being present.

So, what does that mean? So, it's dealing with what's in front of me, not being stuck in the past or too caught up on what's going to happen in the future and being at ease. So, one of the practices is how to be satisfied with what is so how to have more fun? She has some great comments about that.

Reduce distractions, increase connection by actively engaging, increasing playfulness, finding opportunities to rebel. Oh, that's fun. And I feel that in you. Treating fun as an important thing that needs to be prioritized. Do you have anything else to add to that or how do you make those your own? 

Roberta: Yeah, that's a great question. I just keep coming back in the video because I've listened to it a few times now and how it was done during the pandemic. And she actually had to say for connection, you need to go out of the house. You need to look somebody in the eyes, not like in their forehead where the zoom thingy would be.

And just introduce yourself. She had to tell people this is okay to do, put down your phone and do that. So yeah, it's quite a remarkable thing. And honestly, in a lot of ways, like even the start of 2024, that's what I'm doing more. I'm actually disengaging from that.

I've put myself in new situations. I think that's one of the keys is actually throw yourself a bit in the deep end, do something new, meet new people. That is really important and we get so much from it. 

[00:25:22] The Importance of Physical Activity and Embracing Imperfection

Roberta: So, one of the things I did was I started some voiceover acting classes. So, it was very exciting.

And me and the two people that were sitting next to me that we tend to work with the most, we have such goofy fun together, just putting on different voices and trying things out and falling over in laughter because you just feel like such an eejit as we talk about here.

And that's been really cool. And also, for my clients though, one of the things I would say, is to be physically active that so many of us are here, we're slumped, we're over a keyboard, then we relax by being, slumping on the sofa and watching something.

It's very busy for our eyes. It's not moving our body. It's not moving our blood, not moving our chi. All of these things make it a lot harder for us to have fun as well. So that physical component, like actually being in your body.  

So, for the workaholics, particularly. That special mix of a workaholic who can't make mistakes, who gets very twisted up and their energy is so aligned to them being perfect at everything. And if they're not perfect, how it becomes really devastating. It's like their world is ending. So, when I've worked with people before, one of the things I've asked them to do is I've literally, as part of the coaching package, sent them like Play Doh to work with, and I was just like, I want to see next week the worst creature that you could possibly make with this Play Doh.

I want to see the goofiest, worst thing that you could possibly do. I don't want it to be perfect. I just want you to almost look at this and see how well could I mess this up. And in that, I honestly, 

that shifted people so massively. It really helped them to break out of this Inner and outer sense of a cage, of I've got to do it just right.

And that was always really fun. I really love it when I get to bring that in. Those are my thoughts.

Macarena: I love it. Wow, you said such cool stuff. That's so cool. The physicality, like some people are more kinesthetic than others. But I think everybody benefits from that and something pretty funny, SNL, there's an old skit with big poppy very hilarious thing. He's on the weekend thing and he's like doing commercials and stuff like that and his new dating app, it’s called go outside. You want to meet people? Go outside.

And we quote that all the time, go outside. It's really hilarious. And I'll find the link because it's really funny. And yes, going outside and interacting with people is so important. 

[00:28:07] Strategies for Living Well: Connection, Movement, and Mindset

Macarena: That's one of the things coming full circle where we started. One of the best things about our experience during 2020 was that because we met each week, we had community.

Even though it was on Zoom. At least we had other people in our families to talk to. And we could process a lot of the stuff that was going on. Again, reduce distractions. So, putting the phone away, I try to put my phone away at meals, you know, it's a computer and I was attached to the phone.

Oh my God. Take breaks. On the weekends, I try to ignore email, ignore it. I try. Increase connection by actively engaging. Absolutely. My husband and I are taking Tango lessons.

I'm going to my Toastmaster group, like I try to get out there. And that's one of the reasons I'm working on subscriptions. Because I used to do the grateful meetup before the pandemic. So, things like that, I think really help. And finding opportunities to rebel. So that's how I reframed. Before if I was going away,

and the cleaning lady would be like, oh, you're taking a vacation. I'd be like, it's a work trip, I have to justify it to work trip. I'm like, what is that? was always a work trip, it was very rarely vacation, but so what if it was vacation? I think Europe's got that down.

We work with a lot of people in Europe and they're like we're going away for four weeks. And my husband and I were like, we short circuit, that means something. So anyway, finding opportunities to rebel. So yes, people might judge me. Good. I'm going on vacation, as an active rebellion and I'm going to enjoy it.

So that's for me, some of the things I've done. And then treat fun as an important. Absolutely. I think just the reminder, each day is a new day to reset. And I know you've got morning practices as do I. And while they help anchor, I have to remind my clients all the time, do your Metaphysical Maintenance so that you could start each day

from at least grounded, right? And connected. So, then it's going to be easier to handle the onslaught and the storms that come with life. So, I think just taking care of yourself. And one of the things that's fun is sunshine. More of the go outside, whatever you can to go outside. So, I've done my morning routine.

I used to do it inside. Now I do it outside so that I get that morning light. The dogs get to move around. I just read a fantastic book built to move. I'll link it. I wrote a blog post about it, but the bottom line is.

We have to move. And during the holidays, I made the mistake of going on vacation mode. So, I didn't do my morning sun salutations that I do. And I realized no, it's compulsory. I have to it. It's like brushing my teeth or else I get in trouble. I pulled the rib out. We met; I don't know if I told you that I pulled the rib out.

It was crazy, super weird and painful. So, I have to do like my morning things all the time. I got to move. Hence. I'm doing this on a standing desk, so that I move and fidget. And I used to be like, oh, I fidget too much. Good. It's good to fidget. Not only am I burning calories. I'm moving, right?

We're not still. This has been awesome. 

[00:31:14] Closing Thoughts on Self-Discovery and Fun

Macarena: Any closing thoughts?

Roberta: I think for me, so much of it comes down to becoming aware of and comfortable with. You and I would say, "why you came into a body" and that might not fit everybody's cosmology, but whatever cosmology works for you, why are you here? And just really owning that and once you do that, then it's a lot easier.

Decisions make themselves, like what you're supposed to do in life. I always talk about it's the doing that comes from the being and not just, if you're really comfortable with yourself at that level then you don't have to worry about all of that. And it just frees up so much energy for the fun.

So that's what I think is important most important for people, and that's why I help them human differently so that they can do that. 

Macarena: Beautifully well said. I love it. Absolutely. I'm also reading, because I'm at the gym, that's what I do. I listen to audiobooks. I'm 

reading Mastery by Robert Greene, another phenomenal book where he talks about like why we're here, or he calls it the Life task. Your life task.

 it's not like a job, yes, it will guide your career and it'll create career and all those things it can, and it should, but, from the workaholic sense, why am I here? Is not a job, that's not what it is. I'm here to express myself 

Macarena: That's why again, I use the theme park of experience. I'm helping somebody with their life task and it has to do with being supportive of people with some positive direction, like emotionally supportive with positive direction.

It's interesting. And the idea is once you figure it out, your thing. It's what allows you to express yourself most fully and most honestly. So, I think, I agree exactly what you said when you do some of the internal work, when you get to know yourself and the internal work, it doesn't have to be heavy.

And that's why I have my approach versus other people have different, more intense approaches. That's fine. But it's necessary. So that we can be at ease and be satisfied with our lives. 

Thank you, Roberta. 

[00:33:20] Acknowledgements and Future Conversations

Macarena: It's been a pleasure. I cannot wait to talk to you again. I know we have other subjects to talk about, and it was so fun to talk about.

Fun for living well with you. I really appreciate it. And where can our listeners find you?

Roberta: Oh, Mac, thank you so much for having me. I so adore you and all of your input. You've just been so helpful to me in my journey as I start to understand where my emphasis lies and how I can help and be in the world more and better. Anyway, people can find me at robertaweber.co.uk and make an appointment through that if they want to.

 I'm in Glasgow in in Scotland now. And so, your morning sun is not something that I can be guaranteed at all. So, I use daylight lamps to help me get through as a Californian. I definitely need my daylight spectrum lamps around me to help me out.

Macarena: And it's so wonderful that you figured that out and you gave that to yourself. So many times, I think we need permission to do what's necessary to set up our environments so we can thrive. So, bravo to you and I adore you. You have also helped me. You're wonderful at what you do, 

and, I'm so glad we did this so people can get to know us better, especially you and the wonderful work you're doing. There's a lot of people in your area, I know this, who need you. So hopefully this will help them find you.

Roberta: Thank you, honey. So, I live and work in Glasgow. And people can see me in person there, but mostly I work online, so I work with people from all over the world and delightfully so it's absolutely brilliant connecting with so many people in so many different places. 

Macarena: Bravo. Thank you. Keep up the good work

Roberta: Thanks honey.

Macarena: and see you next time.

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